New fiber connection - 1G GPON vs 2.5G/10G XGS-PON

mko · 2024-11-01T10:48:30+00:00

CIAO, Attualmente sono in procinto di ordinare una connessione in fibra con l'attivazione a volte di novembre. C'è un modo per assicurarmi di rimanere connesso (come oggi) al GPON da 1 Gbps anziché a 2,5 g/10G XGS-Pon? Ricordo 2-3 anni fa era solo una questione di chiamare il supporto dopo l'attivazione della connessione, ma ora mi chiedo se potremmo farlo già in anticipo in modo che il giorno in cui è stato attivato, è già 1 g di Gpon? Molte grazie !

mko

Fidgety0205

Ok, I see what you mean. Basically you are saying that the Password field in the /traffic/pon/show onu has the last character truncated. This is okay, on my system it is the same. I somehow understood from your last message that it’s Registration ID that got truncated.

For simplicity let’s assume my MAC is AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF. That gives me AABBCCDDEEFF what translates to 41 41 42 42 43 43 44 44 45 45 46 46. If I use those values, I see the following

#ONT>/traffic/pon/show onu
Onu id 16  
[...]
Serial Number(vendor code): YCEC  
Serial Number(sn): 4xxyyzz9  
Password: 41 41 42 42 43 43 44 44 45 45  
Registration ID: 0x414142424343444445454646000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000  
\------------------------- INFO END --------------------------

so the Password is truncated, but Registration ID contains the full MAC address.

The only thing that comes to my mind is whether you are using ONT MAC address or WAN MAC address correctly. Fiber Box has 2 of them, maybe it’s as simple as switching those?

Fidgety0205

mko
🙌Thank you very much for your help. It’s truly appreciated.

Thanks for confirming that the truncate is normal. I think you did everything you could on your end. Now it’s on me.

I believe I did test both MAC’s but I’m definitely gonna try and change the MAC one more time. Could be a combination of more than one mistake which lead me to miss the right config 🙂 I’m gonna report if I’m successfull.

Fidgety0205

mko So, meanwhile I was able to test again.

OK so I was back again and I tried WAN-MAC and ONT-MAC. Unfortunately, it just doesn’t work. Any Settings / MAC-Combination always falls back to ONU ID 65535.

I realized, that Registration ID is case-sensitive, so f.e. C translates into 43 and c into 63. It didn’t make any difference in success though.

I was able to get to lower ONU-ID’s for a while (starting at 199, increasing by 1 after every try) and I even got the eqd filled out this time for whatever reason.

Onu id 206
sdThreshold:   0
sfThreshold:   0
TO1:   80000
TO2:   1
eqd:   6...0
Serial Number(vendor code): YCEC
Serial Number(sn):          4...9
Password:                   63 ... 35
Registration ID:           0x63...30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
------------------------- INFO END --------------------------

I need to give up. This is just info for the next one to try 😉

gregoire

mko ALL-BM410

Any idea on where to find a “Sunrise’s fiber compatible one” ?

Thank you very much.

matiaslaporte

gregoire

fs.com maybe?

I do wonder if it is possible to connect the fiber module that comes with the “Sunrise Internet Box” to the BPi-R4…

gregoire

In order to order one, I should know which ones are compatible or I only could use

fs.com’s Module XGSPON ONU SFP+ 1270nm-TX/1577nm-RX 10G-TX/10G-RX Classe N1 20km IND DDM SC SMF ?

I was hoping for something less expensive.

The Fiberbox 3 don’t come with an SFP+ so one can’t take the SFP+ to try into the BPi-R4.

Thanks.

gregoire

Hello, could this much cheaper one works ?

Thanks.

gatanasios

Fidgety0205
You may want to try what worked for me.
I described it here: https://community.sunrise.ch/d/42297-which-sfp-for-sunrises-fiber/6

gregoire

Does it makes a difference if the connection is ipv4 or ipv6 ?

Which one is better for using the GPON ?

Thanks.

gregoire

Still no internet for me. @Fidgety0205 did you understand like me that after setting the gpon (still unsure about small letters or big letters) one have to created new device with ONT Mac adress of type VLAN (802q or 8021.aq ?) (with device the sfp) and then put that device for WAN and WAN6 interfaces ?

gregoire

mko

Hello,

I don’t manage without /userdata/scfg.txt (from /traffic/pon/show onu I found out that my password was still 41 42 43… 4a).

I created /userdata/scfg.txt with only “CHAR-ARRAY CFG_ID_PASSWD = {…};” from my CB3 MAC address hexencoded and now show onu display the “right password”).

What do I need to input for CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID[012] ?

Thank you very much.

mko

gregoire

I created /userdata/scfg.txt with only “CHAR-ARRAY CFG_ID_PASSWD = {…};” from my CB3 MAC address hexencoded and now show onu display the “right password”).

What do I need to input for CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID[012] ?

The same value for both fields, the MAC address encoded in hex. CFG_ID_PASSWD gets it as-is because it’s CHAR-ARRAY. For CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID you need to split it into three variables because they are INT.

So for example

/ # cat /userdata/scfg.txt  
CHAR-ARRAY CFG_ID_PASSWD = {0x11,0x22,0x33,0x44, 0x55,0x66,0x77,0x88, 0x99,0x10,0x20,0x30};  
INT CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID0 = 0x11223344;  
INT CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID1 = 0x55667788;  
INT CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID2 = 0x99102030;

gregoire

Thank you very much,

with the MAC from the sticker and the ONT Mac I managed to have an onu id of 130 to 136 (it changes from each try).

I don’t know what I do wrong ?

Under SN I got a YCEC… and also a SMSB… is this one of any use ?

Same for the P/N : 2… ?

Thank you for all the info.

gregoire

Does it the same for working one :

From /tmp/slig.log :

EepVDSL2SystemVendorID= (it’s empty)

EepVDSL2SerialNumber= VDSLSerialNumberYCEC… (the right serial)

Also from ifconfig : which eth do need to be the same mac as PLON ?

And finally : into /tmp/scfg.txt I found that CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID4 is the last completed one, is that normal ?

Thanks.

0xN1C0

mko

Hi!

I have a ALLNET like you and would like to know the version you have?Mine doesn’t load the userdata/scfg.txt file I find it really odd.

when I /traffic/pon/show onu Password is the default ABCDE… but Registration ID is what was written in EEPROM with exeep_w8 0 is that even correct ??

Version:

#ONT/system>ontver build
OntSwVer  : R4.4.20.023
Build Date: 2024-02-05 13:41:01
Major     : 0x00d9
Minor     : 0x01
HwVer     : 0x01
Customer  : CIG
PRODUCT Type = sfpplus
#ONT/system>/system/shell
#ONT/system/shell>cat /etc/version
20240205053100

Thank you for your help

mko

0xN1C0 when I /traffic/pon/show onu Password is the default ABCDE… but Registration ID is what was written in EEPROM with exeep_w8 0 is that even correct ??

No, not correct. If you have a default value in “Password” field and correct one only in “Registration ID”, you won’t authenticate correctly. You need to figure out what is wrong with your /userdata/scfg.txt

I have a ALLNET like you and would like to know the version you have?

Same as yours

#ONT>/system/ontver build
OntSwVer  : R4.4.20.023
Build Date: 2024-02-05 13:41:01
Major     : 0x00d9
Minor     : 0x01
HwVer     : 0x01
Customer  : CIG
PRODUCT Type = sfpplus

0xN1C0

Thank you for your answer!

Can you confirm that you used CFG_ID_PASSWD in /userdata/scfg.txt for changing the Password appearing in /traffic/pon/show onu and nothing else?

May I ask you what your /tmp/scfg.txt looks like ? (pseudonymised of course)

I appreciate your help.

mko

Sure, but I think you are missing some basic concepts. The /tmp/scfg.txt file is read-only. You use /userdata/scfg.txt to override only the values that you want to change.

So mine /tmp/scfg.txt looks like below, but be aware I did not create this file myself, it’s autogenerated (based on other commands you execute and so on, but never edited by hand)

#ONT/system/shell>cat /tmp/scfg.txt
STRING	 CFG_ID_PON_VENDOR_ID	 = YCEC;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_VSSN	 = 0x[...];
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID0	 = 0x4[...];
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID1	 = 0x[...];
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID2	 = 0x[...]9;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID3	 = 0x00000000;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID4	 = 0x00000000;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID5	 = 0x00000000;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID6	 = 0x00000000;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID7	 = 0x00000000;
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID8	 = 0x00000000;
MAC	 CFG_ID_NE_MAC_ADDR1	 = 30:[...]:e3;
INT CFG_ID_PON_DG_ENABLE = 1;

#ONT/system/shell>cat /userdata/scfg.txt
CHAR-ARRAY      CFG_ID_PASSWD                                   = {0x43,[...],0x31};
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID0	 = 0x43[...];
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID1	 = 0x[...];
INT	 CFG_ID_PON_REGISTRATION_ID2	 = 0x[...]31;

Can you confirm that you used CFG_ID_PASSWD in /userdata/scfg.txt for changing the Password appearing in /traffic/pon/show onu and nothing else?

No, this is not true. I did the following (in random order, should not matter)

pon_passwd set 001122334455
register_id set 001122334455
mac1 set 00:11:22:33:44:55
exeep_w8 0 "001122334455"
craft /userdata/scfg.txt

Some may be not necessary, but this was a bunch of attempts and I can’t really track now the minimal set of commands required.

Be aware lower- and uppercase do make difference.

0xN1C0

Hi,

Thank you!

Yes, I know the /tmp/scfg.txt is read-only, I was curious to know what got passed to it since it has the highest priority.
(High) /tmp/scfg.txt > /userdata/scfg.txt > /config/scfg.txt > /config/default_scfg.txt (Low)

I will try some more this afternoon. I can add thought assert that register_id set/get is the same as pon_passwd set/get.

Will try some more this afternoon.
Thank you!

gregoire

I have done some more tryings…

With

#ONT/system/misc>exeep_r8

[00, 000] 43 34 .. .. .. .. .. .. - .. .. .. .. 00 00 00 00 | C4xxxxxxxxxx....

[10, 016] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................

[20, 032] 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[30, 048] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[40, 064] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[50, 080] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[60, 096] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[70, 112] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[80, 128] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[90, 144] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[a0, 160] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[b0, 176] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[c0, 192] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[d0, 208] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[e0, 224] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff | ................

[f0, 240] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff 6d 61 59 24 | ............maY.write /tmp/eep.dat ok

I would like to know (for someone with a working pon) where the “00” and where the “ff” are. With exeep_w8 I can change then. Thank you very much.

0xN1C0

gregoire
Hi,
My by-pass has been working for two weeks now. I have a ALLNET stick but I wouldn’t recommend it.
I would recommend going with a WAS-110 or a X-ONU-SFPP stick with a 8311 firmware on it. (Which I prefer and use now)

Regrading your question:
The placement of the 00’s and ff’s you talk about are not important. But if you worry about the placement of them they are correct and the same as my working setup.

#ONT/system/misc>exeep_r8

[00, 000] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     |  xxxxxxxxxxxx....
[10, 016] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00	|  ................
[20, 032] 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[30, 048] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[40, 064] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[50, 080] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[60, 096] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[70, 112] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[80, 128] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[90, 144] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[a0, 160] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[b0, 176] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[c0, 192] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[d0, 208] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[e0, 224] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff	|  ................
[f0, 240] ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff - ff ff ff ff 0f 8d 2e 1e	|  ................write /tmp/eep.dat ok

I plan to write a guide in the coming days for:

CIG XG-99S variant sticks (ALLNET ALL-BM410-XGSPON-GBIC and FS XGS-ONU-25-20NI)
8311 firmware compatible sticks (WAS-110 and X-ONU-SFPP)

Feel free to direct messaging me through this forum if any questions 🙂

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