Using ethernet connection instead of RF IN, will I get all same channels?

RichardWilliams · 2017-09-30T21:02:32+00:00

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RichardWilliams

Hi all,

I have a question about this tv box.

Is it possible I can use this box via an ethernet conection to get all the same tv channels as I used to have when it used to be connected to the RF IN?

I am a bit unsure how/what? is provided and if the same things are available if it is connected via the ethernet channels from the router which is connected to the main upc cable in.

Thank you loads for any help.

Best regards

Richard Williams

StefanM83

Hi,

hoping that this thread is still alive.

A multiple dwelling (seven parties) shall be equipped with an overall IP-Network and the only cables ducts are available are properly those in whihch the UPC cabels are installed.

Putting additional cables is properly not working everwherey so the solution could be SAT>IP.

Is there anything to watch when installing one or tow DBV-C catabel SAT>IP-Servers in the basement and suppling cable-TV to all flats by IP?

Just for double checking, one tuner can only send a signal to one receiver, isn’t it? So 8 TVs = 8 Tuners?

thx

Stefan

adrianlondon

The oiginal thread was a 2 year old one about the Horizon box, which was weirdly bumped by a newbie with an incorrect answer in the wrong language for this forum 🙂

Icarus

🤣🤣🤣

Some people really do have money to throw out the window…

The converter is super expensive and will cost you a **bleep**load of electricity on the long run but also it won’t allow you to connect your UPC box to receive the whole set of channels, replay, etc.

I’m not sure if I get all the aspects of what you’re trying to achieve here but it seems to me the easiest and cheapest solution would simply be to pull a coax in the very same tube as your cat 7 cable… why don’t you do that????

If really you cannot for any obscur reason you can also replace you cat7 with a BKS solution.

https://www.bks.ch/index_en.php

nafisjedriel

Si vous souhaitez connecter votre ConnectBox et votre Horizon à une prise RF, vous avez besoin d’un répartiteur DS-29.

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RichardWilliams

Hi,

Thx for the repsonse.

I have been on the web interface but its not so intuitve. It has unicable settings, lnb settings, multicats setup and channel list.


Tuner 1		DVB-S/S2
Tuner 2		DVB-S/S2
Tuner 3		DVB-C/C2/T/T2
Tuner 4		DVB-C/C2/T/T2

Under the channel list there is a “Start Channel Scan” I tried that but I am not sure if it does anything.

Do I need to insert the card even though it dosn’t work or just ataching the cable to the box will be enough?

Cheers

Richard

TheSven

I myself never set up such device, but does the Octopus has a WebInterface?

I guess at first, you have to do a channel search with it.

The DigiCard won’t work, as the Octopus can’t forward a encrypted channel. So the right managment will block the encrypted channels.

RichardWilliams

Thank you loads for all your help.

So I have now picked up myself an DD Octopus NET V2 S2CT2/4 MIX - SAT>IP Networktuner

I hope this is good enough for me to use.

I managed to connect to it on my netwok and update the firmware. I have plugged in network cable from it to my router and I also connected the sat cable from the splitter into it.

Now I am kind of really lost on how to configure this if I even need to, or do I just need to use the headend software and it will pick up the feed on the ip address the octopus is on?

Also should I not bother plugging in the digicard from Upc cablecom?

Best regards

Richard

TheSven

According to my friend, it’s not possible to use a DigiCard in the octopus box.

The Box’es slot is CI, and not CI+, as requiered for the DigiCard.

RichardWilliams

So I just realised the octopus box you recommended, it has card slots where I could put a DigiCard.

So my new question is does this octopus box support the UPC DigiCard, I can see it requires a CI+ card reader. I couldn’t see this on the octopus box, do you know if it is capable of using the UPC Digicard

Thanks

Richard

RichardWilliams

Hey great thank you so much for all of this you have been so helpful!!

I very much appreciate this :-)

So I only need to connect to one of the feeds from the UPC? What advantage would I have if I connected the same feed to all connections? Is that possible also?

Thanks loads again

Richard

TheSven

- Yes, you don’t need a UPC TV Box anymore. But you still need the ConnectBox for Internet access, that can’t be done with this device.

- I would say there are 4 independant tuners, so you could transfer 4 different signals from 4 different sources. As you only want the UPC channels you would have to use adapters (T-pieces) to feed all 4 inputs with the same signal source. But I can ask this my friend to be sure.

RichardWilliams

Oh Wow!

This thing looks great and exactly what I need. It somehow is a little different to what I expected.

I expected a little device that can output all onto network, then at the other end it could pick up the signal from the network and put it back to the coax so I can use the upc cablecom set top box.

So I am guessing I don’t even needs UPC Cablecom set top box and this will just pump all the channels onto the network and I just need software or correct hardware to pick them up?

Couple of other questions:

1. I have read some of the documentation, and there are so many acronyms that I dont understand all of it, I was wondering, so from the upc cablecom coming into the house, which connector would I connect that too, I can see VL, VH, HL and HH?

2. Because this device has the ethernet connections, will this also provide the ethernet supplied from the UPC Cablecom which means I dont need to use the UPC cable com router either?

Thanks loads already, this is getting me much closer to a nice set up.

Richard

TheSven

Hi @RichardWilliams

I asked my friend about the System he uses to convert DVB-C to Ethernet, here is what he wrote me:

Basically he uses this device to convert the DVB-C to IP: https://digitaldevices.de/produkte/netzwerk-tv-tuner/octopus-net-c2-4t/

The device has 4 Tuners to feed more than 1 TV oder a TV and 3 streams to record.

It’s a kind of Sat>IP conversion but used with DVB-C: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-over-IP-Technik

On his NAS/Home-Server he runs TVHeadend (http://tvheadend.org/) that’s responsible for channel managment, EPG, recording.

The TV doesn’t connect directly to the Octopus tuner, but to the TVHeadend so that it can use EPG, timeshift, recording and so on.

Connected to the TV he want’s to watch is as PC with Kodi (https://kodi.tv/) with a plugin for TVHeadend.

With this you have the complete comfort and more of a DVB-C TV connected with a IP network.

Important, that all works only with the unencrypted channels in the basic offer of UPC, no CI+ support for a DigiCard.

RichardWilliams

ahhh I see. That probably wont work for me then as I have the same rf connected to my modem which is then sending to the other rooms.

the box to do the conversion possibly needs to be smallish also. It can be bigger than that device in the last link, but maybe modem size is ok.

If you could ask your friend that would be great!

Thank you very much

Richard

TheSven

I have no experience with this Device, but it may no be what you want.

This is just a Cableconverter so that you can send the RF Signal through a RJ45 connection cable. It has to be a dedicated cable, directly from the RF-Source to the Destination.

There can’t be a switch or other network equipment between.

This converter doesn’t do IP-TV, it’s just a cable adapater.

I going to ask my friend for some hints for you for building a RF to IpTV converter, if you like.

RichardWilliams

Would you know if this device would do the trick?

http://cpc.farnell.com/bobcat/spc/rf-over-cat5/dp/AV17926

Cheers

Richard

RichardWilliams

Great!

Thank you very much with all your help, it has been really useful.

Now, I just need to see if I can find something that can convert the rf signal over IP. If you have another tip or link of what I could be looking for, this would be also greatly appreciated.

Thank you loads

Cheers

Richard :-)

TheSven

Good luck with your project.

Yes, these are the channels you can watch directly with your DVB-C TV. So everything you get with a Connect-Subscription. Any additional channels you have with the Connect&Play subscription aren’t possible over Ehternet.

That’s the limitation. Also no PayTV or Video on Demand.

RichardWilliams

Indeed you are a MoveStar :-) lol

Ok this sounds like it could be worth a try as it may cost me a lot to run the rf cable in the walls as I would like.

I will look up now to see if I can find such a gadget to make the conversion.

Just another question about the basic non encrypted channels. Are these all the regular channels I don’t need to pay extra for? I remember before there were a lot of uk channels and other channels are these OK and NOT encrypted?

Thanks so much again, this is great support!

Cheers

Richard

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